I had bought a few NYX slim line lip liners years ago and pretty much gave up on them because for me they tugged and were really drying. But I was watching a youtuber whose lip color I always wondered what she used, and she did a GRWM video where she said she uses this NYX mauve lip liner, topped with basic cherry chapstick. Many years ago (like, back in the 90's..) a sales associate for Estee Lauder used the EL lip balm, topped with the EL spice lip pencil, and I wore that combo for years. So, for me, a balm/lip liner combo brought back pleasant memories. Mauve is a great shade, very pigmented. But it still tugs and is quite drying. For me, I definitely need a balm with these or a very moisturizing lipstick. These Nyx slim line pencils are really good shades, plenty of choices, but I still find them drying and often tug. I realize they are inexpensive, so I do not expect a whole lot from them. And for me, the caps on these sometimes slip off easily. So, great shades, but a few drawbacks in my opinion. I will enjoy this shade but when this one runs out or I tire of it, I will look for a similar shade from Urban Decay, Palladio, or I think even Essence has a similar shade. But for the price, I guess you/I can't complain too much...When you compare this to what would be the equivalent of using EL balm and EL pencil, those combined currently total $46.00USD, and when you consider you can get the basic chapstick and a NYX liner for around $5.00-$6.00 total, it is a smart option if you are budget-minded or just don't like spending a lot of $$$ on makeup...So, while these do tug and can be drying, they definitely are great options with great shades.